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Epstein Release Interview Victim Statements Evidence Maxwell
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DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay would you state your name for the record please A Courtney Elizabeth Wild Okay Do you go by another name also A Yes Courtney Elizabeth Moody Okay Which name do you prefer to use now Wild or Moody A We can use Wild Okay Is Moody a married name for you A Yes Okay And is there a Mr Moody A Yes What I his first name A Brent B-r-e-n-t And are you still married to Mr Moody A Yes Okay And how long have you been married A About six years Okay And where is Mr Moody right know A Hes incarcerated Okay And where is he incarcerated A At Suwannee CI Okay That here in the State of Florida FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Yes Okay And do you know what his sentence is A He was sentenced to years Okay Were you living with him when the robbery that had him convicted and sentenced to years took place A Yes And where were you living then A In Delray Beach And what was the address there A I can I remember the address off hand Okay So Brent Moody was convicted in Palm Beach County for A Yes strong-arm for robbery A For robbery Okay And sentenced as a habitual offender A Correct Okay And I sorry if I asked you this already but do you know when that took place A He about five years ago Okay So you were not yet in custody on your trafficking case A Correct Okay And you and Mr Moody have a child FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Yes Okay Do you know what he was convicted of that has him incarcerated A Robbery Strong arm robbery armed robbery do you know what it was A Just robbery Just a plain robbery A Yes Okay And he was sentenced as a habitual offender A Yes Correct A Yes Do you know what it means to be a habitual offender A Yeah What does it mean to you A Hes had a history He has history you know Do you know what his history is A Well he was the first time he went to prison he was convicted for robbery as well I believe Okay Were you married to him when he was convicted of the robbery that has him in the Suwannee Correctional Institution now FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA together A Yes is that correct A Yes Okay And your child was born in prison A No my childs five years old Okay Have you been married to anyone else other than Mr Moody A No Any other marriages in your life A No Okay What is the sentence that you are serving now Ms Wild A A 6-month sentence Okay And what were you convicted of A Trafficking violation of probation and petty theft Okay You were convicted of trafficking in amphetamines A Yes Okay And do you know what drug in particular you were convicted of trafficking in A Methamphetamine amphetamines What county were you convicted of trafficking in amphetamines FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Hillsborough Okay A Tampa Florida Okay Okay and you were convicted of trafficking in more than grams of amphetamines A No actually it wasnt more than grams Thats what I was booked on but it was under grams when I plead out A A A A But you pled to trafficking correct Correct Thats correct Okay Yeah What does trafficking mean Selling drugs basically Okay So you were convicted of selling drugs Well trafficking right A Okay But utraffickingn meaning selling drugs Correct A is that your understanding Yes You entered a guilty plea to something did you not A Correct And you stood in front of a judge and told the judge you were guilty FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA trafficking case A Yes You had a lawyer representing you A Yes did you not A Yes I did Okay Did you have a court appointed lawyer or did you have a private-paid lawyer A No I had a private attorney Okay And that private attorney negotiated a plea for you correct A Correct Okay And do you know that you could be facing up to years on that trafficking case A I think it was like seven years I could have I could have gotten was seven years but So A it went down to three Okay Your understanding is that the maximum you could have been sentenced to on the trafficking case that you pled guilty to was seven years in prison A Correct And your lawyer told you that MR EDWARDS I object 2s FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Yes did you not A I did And you told the judge that you were guilty of selling drugs is that correct A I yes if thats how you want to word it yes Well you tell me how you want to word it You can word it any way you want to A Thats yes I told him I was guilty of trafficking selling methamphetamine Okay And that trafficking in methamphetamine had a significance because it carried a minimum-mandatory sentence with it did it not A Right And do you know what I mean when I say minimum-mandatory sentence A Yes Okay What does it mean A That I had to do it was three years that I had a minimum-mandatory of three years So the judge could think you were the nicest person in the world and he had to give you three years in prison A Correct Okay And you negotiated a guilty plea to that FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR GOLDBERGER You dont need to answer that question thats fine Okay You understanding was that you could only be sentenced to seven years in prison A When I first was booked on the charge and I went to first appearance the first judge you see at first appearance told me it was a minimum mandatory of seven years Okay A So thats what I was told Right So Im not talking about the minimum mandatory I talking about what the statutory maximum was for the offense for which you entered into a plea negotiation A With trafficking charges its about the weight of the drug and because I had grams it was a seven-year minimum mandatory Now when I sat in county and I fought it for ten months when they went back and tested the drugs it wasn grams it was under grams So I took a guilty charge pleaded guilty to a trafficking sel ing drugs of methamphetamines and took a month Okay My question to you is putting aside the minimum mandatory A Um-hmm FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA do you know what the statutory maximum is Do you know what I mean when I say statutory maximum A No Okay Now you say you fought and contested that charge for months A Correct Okay so you told the judge for ten months that you were not guilty of the offense correct MR SCAROLA objection leading THE WITNESS I I dont know how to MR SCAROLA objection pleading MR GOLDBERGER Did you tell the judge that you were not guilty of the offense for ten months THE WITNESS Correct MR SCAROLA Objection leading BY MR GOLDBERGER And after ten months did you enter a guilty plea A Yes Okay So after ten months of saying you were not guilty you stood in front of a judge was it the same judge by the way A Yes MR SCAROLA Objection compound and leading FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay A I sure I was Okay You re sure you were A Yes I was Why are you sure you were on probation for felony theft A Yes I was let me go back I yes I was on probation for felony theft And the reason why you were on probation for felony theft is that you had had so many convictions of petty theft A Correct MR SCAROLA Objection leading BY MR GOLDBERGER Was there another charge that you were also charged with and pled guilty to when you were sentenced to three years in the State Florida Department of Correct ions A It was the trafficking violation of probation and petty theft And the petty theft A correct Okay Did you plead guilty to that petty theft A Yes That was a crime of dishonesty FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay And did you tell that judge that in fact you were guilty of selling drug A so when I was booked if you could see the charges that I was booked on when I pled guilty I wasn I charged with all those charges that I was first booked on But yes I pleaded guilty after the ten months Okay A of seeing the same judge yes I did Well in addition to pleading guilty to trafficking in drugs and selling drugs you also pled guilty to a violation of probation A Correct did you not A Correct yes And in fact you were on probation for theft for stealing were you not A Correct MR SCAROLA Objection leading BY MR GOLDBERGER Were you on probation for theft A Yes I was Okay And were you on probation for felony theft A I theres a possibility yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Was it a crime of dishonesty Yeah A I mean MR SCAROLA Excuse me Im going to object to the extent the question calls for a legal conclusion MR GOLDBERGER Okay Did you do something dishonest when you stole and got convicted of petty theft THE WITNESS Sure MR GOLDBERGER Okay What was it MR SCAROLA Same objection BY MR GOLDBERGER What was it that you did that was dishonest when you stole and pled guilty to petty theft A I took something that wasnt mine What did you take A I cant remember right know Because there were so many of them A No I just cant remember exactly what I took Did you have a bond when you were arrested for the selling/trafficking in methamphetamines A Yes I did I dont remember how much it was Did you try and post bond at all A No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay Did you have the money to post bond A No Okay If I tell you the bond was dollars did you not have dollars to post bond A Correct Who was your lawyer on those cases A Julian Hayes I sorry Julienne A Julian Hayes yes Okay Is that a man or a female A A man Okay And he was a retained lawyer on your part A Yes Okay Did you hire that lawyer A Yes Did Mr Edwards assist you in that matter A No Now have you been at this correctional institution I say this correctional institution I think its called Gadsden is that what it called A Um-hmm Gadsden Correctional Institution A Yes Have you been here since your sentence A Yeah well they when I first was sentenced FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A No thats that I going to be my release date Okay So on October of how much of the three-year minimum-mandatory sentence the minimum sentence you could have received will you have served A Ill do two-and-a-half years on three years Okay And the plea bargain that your lawyer Hayes is that his name A Um-hmm Mr Hayes Negotiated for you was the minimum sentence you could have received A Correct is that correct A Yes Okay And what was your arrest date on the trafficking in drugs A It was in April of Okay Without telling me what he may have told you did you consult with Mr Edwards at any time after your arrest in April of A About the case About the trafficking case Yes A No Okay The theft that had you placed on probation based on the records Im reviewing took place in November of actually November 9th of FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA they took me to RNO Whats that Talk to me in I know you understand A RNO is where they bring everybody that gets sentenced to prison and they basically show you how to be a prisoner for about two months and then they ship you to whatever compound youre going to go to So I stayed at RNO which is a compound in ocala for two months and then I was shipped here And you go to this RNO to learn how to be a prisoner A Yeah basically thats what they they show you like what how to live in these conditions basically I see Okay And youve been here ever since leaving RNO A Yes In Ocala A Yes Okay And when 1S your projected release date Ms Wild A My itS October 12th Okay Is that subject to change or is that of cast in stone because of the minimum mandatory sentence FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA Object to the form of the question MR GOLDBERGER Do you kind MR SCAROLA Excuse me Object to the form of the question it is leading and it references documents not in evidence BY MR GOLDBERGER A stolen A A A A Okay Do you remember that arrest Yes Okay And what were you charged with having It was petty theft I don remember what You don remember what you stole No Do you remember which store you stole from It was Wal-Mart Wal-Mart Um-hmm You have other convictions from having stolen from Wal-Mart do you not A Yeah Yes I do Okay I want to talk to you about your criminal record for a little while Do you remember the first time you were ever convicted of a crime A No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Do you remember how old you were A No I don I Okay Do you know how many times you have been convicted of a crime A No I dont Have you ever testified as to the number of times youve been convicted of a crime A No Youve never testified to that A Said how many times I ve been convicted to a crime Yes ma am A No not to my knowledge Okay You do remember being deposed in the past do you not A Yes Okay And Mr Edwards was your attorney A Yes And he was sitting there A Okay It took place in actually May of do you remember that A Yes Okay Have you had an opportunity to review that deposition since it was given FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Do you remember what you stole A No Okay But that one sticks in your mind A Well it does now that you brought it up yes I see Do you remember a conviction or an for battery concerning someone by the name of Deanna Cornelius A Yes Okay Who was Deanna Cornelius arrest A I dont even know who she I dont know her as a person I didn I even know her You know the name though A Yeah I don I dont know the name by memory but I know who youre the incident youre talking about What incident am I talking about A I got into an altercation with somebody when I went out one night Okay When you went out where A To a club What club was that A It was a strip club Okay was it Platinum Gold A Yes Okay FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A No I havent looked at it or read it or anything no Youve never read that deposition A No I havent Okay Do you recall having been asked questions about your convictions at that deposition in May of A There was so many quest ions I can remember exactly if that question Im sure Im sure if it was I dont remember Okay And you don remember answering questions about how many times you ve been convicted of a crime back in May of A No Okay I asked you about your convictions from stealing from Wal-Mart and your testimony I think was that youve stolen from Wal-Mart before this most-recent case is that correct A Yes Okay Do you remember a case back in June of June 4th of when you pled guilty to petty theft for having stolen items items from Wal-Mart A Yes I do remember that Tell me what you remember about that case A I went to jail for stealing from Wal-Mart FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A It was Were you working at Platinum Gold when you had the altercation with Deanna Cornelius A No You weren I working as a bartender and/or a stripper A I was at the when the incident occurred I was not working at that moment no I see A I did work there but I wasn working at that moment no Okay When you got arrested for the battery at Platinum Gold A Um-hmm were you using the name Courtney Wild or were you using an alias Do you know what I mean when I say alias A Yeah I was it was a stage name think I was when they came and arrested me I was working but the incident happened like two or like the night or two nights prior or something like that Okay And what stage were you using A I can I remember Did you ever use the name Taylor A Okay yeah that sounds FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Is that a name you used A Yeah Okay And was that the name you were using when you were arrested for battery on Deanna Cornelius A Yeah they when they came and arrested me that was the stage name that name Taylor I was working under the Okay So you were visiting that club not working the night the incident took place A Correct Okay And then two nights later you were working there A Right under the alias Taylor A Yes is that correct A Correct Okay And the incident that took place the allegation was that you struck Ms Cornelius with a purse containing a can of Slim Fast is that correct MR SCAROLA Objection leading THE WITNESS No that Is not none of that true I took that case to trial and I beat it The lady said a lot of things that werent true and if you noticed I was never convicted Thats one of FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Have you been arrested for possession of cocaine A I dont believe so Okay Do you remember in June of being arrested for possession of cocaine A Okay so maybe I was I cant remember Okay A if I was or wasnt How many times have you been in jail in your life A I I don know Did you know back in May of when you gave a deposition A Im not sure Whats the longest amount of time youve ever been in jail A Right now Okay Prior to this time that you re spending in jail now what was the longest amount of time you had ever spent in jail A A A Six months Okay And what Grand theft Okay And where The grand theft Wal-Mart actually was that for did that take place charges I believe it was FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA the cases I was never even convicted of so BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay How many other cases have you been convicted arrested for in your life that you havent been convicted of A I Im not sure Okay Do you remember being arrested for aggravated battery A I believe that was the time that I was arrested for aggravated battery was with that lady Oh the Slim Fast case was with was an A Thats not I dont even know anything about a Slim Fast Okay A or anything like that yeah But when I ask you about an aggravate battery your recollection is that involved the case with Cornelius A If that yes Okay All right Have you been arrested for possession of cocaine before and convicted actually MR SCAROLA Objection compound BY MR GOLDBERGER Have you been convicted of possession of cocaine A No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA That was the right answer a bad question What county were you convicted in A Palm Beach county Okay And you served six months in jail for that A Yes Because it was not your first offense right A Correct MR SCAROLA Objection leading BY MR GOLDBERGER How many offenses have you had how many convictions have you had prior to the one in which you served six months in the Palm Beach County Jail A It was a total of three grand thefts that I served six months on if thats what youre asking So you pled to three grand thefts A Correct at the same time Okay And were all three of them thefts from Wal-Mart A Yes Three different time periods though A Yes Okay So you pled to three at one time A Correct Entered FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A For six months Entered into a plea negotiation A I cant I mean it was I cant remember exactly Yes I believe so though Okay Who represented you on those cases A A public defender Okay And you were looking at perhaps more than six months in jail for those three offenses for which you were charged A I cant remember You dont know A Right Okay But you certainly know that you entered into a plea negotiation right A Correct Yes When you were deposed in May of you indicated that you had been convicted of crimes maybe four times perhaps three times MR SCAROLA Object to the form of the question misleading improper impeachment MR GOLDBERGER Does that seem to be accurate MR SCAROLA Same objections THE WITNESS I can remember I cant remember what I said at the deposition FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA crime MR SCAROLA going to object this is improper use of a deposition which indicates that there was no answer to that question at that time How many times have you been convicted of a crime Answer Im not sure MR GOLDBERGER Read the next page if you would maam THE WITNESS On MR GOLDBERGER I want you to have all the context that you need so read as much as you need to read to see if it refreshes your recollection as to how many times youve been convicted of a crime THE WITNESS At this point in time MR GOLDBERGER Yes maam yeah but we know theres been a lot more since then right THE WITNESS Okay so MR SCAROLA Excuse me Im going to object argumentative MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA Leading THE WITNESS It says either convicted or pleaded guilty to a crime maybe four four times MR SCAROLA Read the entire answer if you would please Ms Wild And you can read it out loud FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Okay THE WITNESS at that time BY MR GOLDBERGER Would it refresh your memory to look at the deposition Would it help you A No we dont I mean are there going to be more questions about the deposition that I took Probably A Okay sure so if you want to put it here and I can go back I mean I dont know Okay so let me first start by asking you to look at Page of the deposition and see if it refreshes your memory MR SCAROLA Do you have an extra copy MR GOLDBERGER I dont Im sorry MR BREWER I think I ve got one MR SCAROLA Pardon me MR BREWER I think Ive got one MR SCAROLA Okay well wait for just a minute Which page are your MR GOLDBERGER MR SCAROLA Page MR GOLDBERGER So what Id like you to do is read Page and ask you if it refreshes your memory as to how many times youve been convicted of FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA since youve read a portion of it out loud Page starting at Line THE WITNESS It says what page is it MR SCAROLA beginning at Line just read that into the record so that THE WITNESS And how many times have you been convicted of a crime My answer was Im not sure MR GOLDBERGER Keep going MR SCAROLA And then the next question and answer a THE WITNESS Then the next question maybe Youre either convicted or pled guilty to a crime And I said Maybe four four times three times MR GOLDBERGER And your answer was maybe three or four times MR SCAROLA Excuse me would you continue to read MR GOLDBERGER Well Im going to ask I going to ask her question MR SCAROLA Would you continue to read the next MR GOLDBERGER Please dont interrupt me its my deposition You asked FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA THE WITNESS That MR SCAROLA The record will reflect that the witness has been cut off MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA not permitted to read MR GOLDBERGER You can answer the entire question and you can read the entire matter but as you read the question I want to ask you questions about your answer So you just testified did you not that you had been convicted three or four times Now you can did you THE WITNESS Thats what my answer was MR GOLDBERGER Now you can now your counsel wants you to read the rest into the record and you can go ahead THE WITNESS What crimes have you either been found guilty or pled guilty to And my answer was Im not really certain off-hand exactly what they were MR SCAROLA Thank you thats fine MR GOLDBERGER Nothing else you want her to read at this point MR SCAROLA You can continue with the deposition MR GOLDBERGER Okay FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA today A Right on the spot right now I cant remember exactly everything Ive pled guilty to no Okay Is your recollection thought that there are other offenses that you have pled guilty to A Yes All right When was the last time in your life that you saw Jeffrey Epstein A Right before he right before he went to jail I don I seen I seen him the weekend before he went to jail I came back from my club and I was watching the news and I seen his mug shot on the TV Okay A and thats how I knew he had been to jail but it was probably like a week or so before that I had seen him ago Okay Do you know what year that was A No Okay Do you think it was more than ten years A Yeah Okay A Close to ten years ago All right So the trafficking in drugs that you had pled guilty to where you sold drugs correct FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR GOLDBERGER Did you also plead guilty to theft of an auto A Yes when I was I believe I did Okay You entered a guilty plea to that A Yes As we sit here today other than the offenses that you say took place after do you have a recollection of any other crimes that you have entered a guilty plea to in the past A Possession charges Possession of what A Xanax Okay Do you know when those took place A I cant remember exactly the years no Okay You used the plural though meaning that you pled guilty to possession of Xanax more than one time MR SCAROLA Objection leading THE WITNESS I believe so BY MR GOLDBERGER Did you plead guilty to possession of Xanax more than one time in your life A I think it might have been twice but it could have been just once Im not a hundred percent Okay Do you have a recollection of other offenses that you have pled guilty to as we sit here FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Thats what you told me you sold drugs right A Thats basically MR SCAROLA Objection compound THE WITNESS Thats not what I didnt say I sold drugs I said that I pled guilty to a trafficking a trafficking charge which trafficking means selling drugs but thats not I wasnt selling drugs MR GOLDBERGER You pled guilty to something that you didnt do MR EDWARDS Objection misstates her testimony BY MR GOLDBERGER do Did you plead guilty to something that you didnt A I dont know how I dont even know how to answer that Best you can ma am A No I was convicted of I was guilty of trafficking methamphetamines I guess Okay A Because the amount of weight that it was And that was what year A The when I was sentenced Yes ma am FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A And when did the event take place A April Okay That was some time between five and ten years since the last time you had seen Jeffrey Epstein A Thats correct Okay How many tattoos do you have now A Im not I have a lot Okay Have you obtained any of those tattoos in the last ten years A Yes Okay Which tattoos have you obtained in the last ten years A Basically almost all of them Okay The tattoo on your left arm of a barbed wire A Yes Okay when did you get that A I was probably when I got that Okay Do you have a tattoo on your left hand on your ring finger is that correct A Yes Okay What does that say A It says BJGM,R And what does that stand for FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Yeah Okay And when did you obtain that one A When probably about over ten years ago that was one of the that was one of the first tattoos I got too Okay Do you have a tattoo of Bob Marley somewhere A Yes on my side On your side okay And a lions face A Um-hmm And a girl A No girl Okay so its a tattoo of Bob Marley and a lions face A Correct Okay A Yes Two different tattoos or one A Its just one tattoo I see And when did you obtain that A A couple years ago Okay Do you have a tattoo on your right arm that says of an elephant and it says Believe A Yes Okay And when did you obtain that FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A My husbands initials Mr Moody A Yes Okay And when did you obtain that A Two whenever we got married about six years ago Okay You have a tattoo on your left leg correct A Yes Does it say Divine Nordic or Nordic Divine A No it just says Divine Divine A Yeah Oh okay And when did you get that A When I when I was young so it was probably over ten years ago I got that It was one of my first tattoos I ever Im sorry one of the first tattoos you ever got A Yeah Okay Do you have a tattoo on your neck A No Do you have a tattoo that says Get it how you live with a cross A Right Oh yeah it is on the back of my neck Back of your neck FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Like when I was And you have a tattoo on your right leg of roses A Yes Okay And when did you obtain that A A couple years ago When did you first start using drugs A When I was years old Okay What year were you born A Okay So you first started using drugs in is that a fair statement A I would say probably A Yeah Okay And when I said but you corrected me to A Um-hmm is there something that helps you remember that you started using drugs in A Yeah when I first started going to Jeffreys house I soon started using drugs Right so your drug usage was entirely because of your visiting Mr Epstein A Yeah basically I Okay FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A started using drugs because I started going to Jeffrey Epsteins house Okay were you using drugs because you were a dancer a stripper A I was a dancer and I was using drugs but I believe the core root of my issue I wasnt a dancer until I was of age to be a dancer I started going to Jeffrey Epsteins house when I was years old Are you A So I was not a dancer Are you testifying today that you were not a stripper back when you were years old A I was a dancer but I was not a dancer at years old Okay Do you remember working at a pl ace cal ed Curves A I remember going to a place named Curves but never worked there You never worked at Curves as a stripper A No Did you ever testify differently concerning working as a stripper at Curves A I MR SCAROLA Object to the form of the question improper impeachment FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Tatum Miller A Yes Uh-huh And you were or years old A I was Im sure I was like years old yeah Okay I like you to read starting on page through Page and see if that refreshes your recollection as to whether you danced as a stripper at Curves when you were or years old MR EDWARDS What lines did you say MR GOLDBERGER Its all over she can read let me see the page number MR EDWARDS Page just starts in the middle of a sentence thats why MR GOLDBERGER Yeah let me let me Ill give you a line Okay you can start actually on the top of Page and read as much as you want and you can read as much of it as you want into the record if your counsel wants you to and see if that refreshes your recollection as to whether you were working as a stripper at Curves when you were or years old MR EDWARDS Object improper impeachment You can read it to yourself MR BREWER Excuse me Excuse me One FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA THE WITNESS I never worked as a stripper at Curves MR GOLDBERGER Okay THE WITNESS I had been to Curves I had gone to Curves but never worked as a stripper there BY MR GOLDBERGER When did you first go to Curves A When I was like Okay A years old Is Curves a bar A Yes Okay Does Curves sell liquor A Yes Okay A I think they did How did you get into Curves if you were or years old A I dont the friend that I went with knew somebody that et us in Okay What was that friend name A Tatum You went there with Tatum Miller A Yes Okay The first time you went to Curves was with FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA attorney MR EDWARDS Well I represent the witness MR GOLDBERGER Thats fine I thats fine I dont care THE WITNESS Okay So what what was the question BY MR GOLDBERGER Yes ma am Did you work at Curves as a stripper A No Okay So what you testified to in that deposition in May of is incorrect MR SCAROLA Excuse me Im going to object that improper impeachment If you have a specific page and line reference a question and answer then we would be happy to review that BY MR GOLDBERGER Did you work as a stripper when you were or at a night club called Curves A Yeah it says that I said that I worked there a couple times but Did you A I don I remember ever working there I don I remember ever working there as a stripper no FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay A No So lets go back to when you first started using drugs When did you first start using drugs Ms Wild A When I was about years old Okay A Um-hmm And what was your first drug of choice A I started with smoking weed drinking eating Xanax Okay And at the time that you started smoking weed drinking and eating Xanax what do you mean by eating Xanax What does that mean A Like taking pills Okay And where were you getting these xanax that you were taking A Off people that in the neighborhood that I knew or lived in at the time Tatum Miller A She knew some of the same people yes Okay so you got Xanax from Tatum Miller A No Im not saying I got Xanax I we know the same people We lived in the same neighborhood as the people that we got them from Okay And this was when you were or FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA audition and stuff I know I would go there but I dont remember ever going there to work you know a couple times a week I dont remember I dont remember that but You remember auditioning as a stripper though at Curves A Yeah I remember getting on the stage I wasnt really taking it as an audition to work there I was just like you know intoxicated and got on stage like playing around I guess And this was when you were or A Thats correct Okay And were you playing around auditioning by taking off your clothes so A I dont remember taking off my clothes neither Okay So your recollection is that you went on the stage but did not take off your clothes A I cant remember I see Was that before you met Jeffrey Epstein or after A No that was definitely after Okay What was the next place that your either auditioned at or stripped at A I cant exactly remember I dont know It FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A A A Yes You were eating Xanax Correct Okay Smoking weed you said Yes How much weed were you smoking when you were or A I cant remember Okay And what were the other drugs you talked about A Just drinking Oh drinking thats right okay And what were you drinking when you were or years old A I cant remember Okay A exactly what I was drinking Putting aside your time at Curves when do you recall first being a stripper A I was I was like I think I was just like a week before my 18th birthday Okay And where did you first besides Curves and you deny having ever worked at Curves as a stripper correct A I know I I know I went there I remember the night when in the deposition how it says I tried out to FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA was there was a couple strip clubs I think it was like Platinum Showgirls Where was Platinum Showgirls A In Boynton Okay And when did you dance there Ms Wild A I cant remember the exact dates Okay Did you use stage names when you danced at these places A Yeah Okay Other than Taylor do you remember what other names you might have used A No Okay Do you remember other clubs that you stripped at A There was Aphrodites which is the same place as Platinum Gold Okay Where else A Cheetah When you stripped at Aphrodites were you underage A I no I dont believe I was Okay Did you get arrested while you were at Aphrodites for an incident with a girl A Thats the same incident we just spoke about Okay Did it involve flicking a cigarette at FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA someone is that incident or are we talking about the Slim Fast A I thought it was the same It could have been the same no I think it was a different I cant remember Okay Do you remember a different incident where you got arrested for flicking a cigarette at a A Yes a fellow dancer Was it a fellow dancer by the way A I cant remember Okay Do you remember using the name Divine A Yes I did Okay How about the name Margo A Yes I used that one name too Okay were you over years or under when you were using the names Margo and/or Divine A I believe I was over over Okay And Im sorry how old were you when you began to work at Platinum Showgirls as a stripper A I believe I was Okay A I know I went in there the week before my 18th birthday Okay FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Okay So seven years ago A Yeah it was eight well almost eight years ago so I just cant I cant understand if I dont have exact if my answers arent exactly theres a lot of stuff that you know Ive been through theres a lot of so a lot of this stuff Ive blacked I I ve blocked out of my mind I havent you know really thought about So youre trying to pick apart things that just really you know I if I can remember I cant remember Im giving you the best Im here in good faith and giving you the best knowledge that I have Okay was your memory better back in A I mean thats just a crazy question to ask You dont think so Well was it A I mean I I cant remember You cant remember whether your memory was better in A Right All right very good MR SCAROLA Excuse me Im going to object to the last series of questions as improper impeachment FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A as a customer but Do you think you ever answered that question differently MR SCAROLA Object to the form of the question THE WITNESS I cant remember MR SCAROLA improper impeachment MR GOLDBERGER Would it refresh your memory to look at your deposition to see if youve ever answered that question differently MR SCAROLA Which question MR GOLDBERGER Page whether she was said she was of age when she danced at Platinum Showgirls Page BY MR GOLDBERGER Did you read that question maam A Yeah I read it Okay let me read that into the record to make sure this is what you read Did you read this question talking about Platinum Showgirls Page Line Line When did you first start working there that is how many months after I was I had just turned when I worked there that was your answer A How long ago was this deposition taken May of May FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR GOLDBERGER When you worked at either Platinum Showgirls or Curves or Aphrodee-tees phonetic and what was the other club you worked at A Aphrodites Aphrodites I apologize A And Cheetah And Cheetah okay And when did you work at Cheetah A I know I worked there as an adult from up so I cant remember exactly the day and time that I worked at Cheetah but I have worked at Cheetah before Okay When you worked at any of those clubs in addition to stripping on stage did you perform lap dances A Yes Okay For the benefit of all of us would you tell us what a lap dance is A When you dance in front of a male or female for money Okay And is there touching involved Yes Okay And have you done that before A Yes Okay And what your state of dress or undress FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA when you do a lap dance A You get undressed you take your top off Okay Not your bottoms A No Okay A No you won Okay And you ve done that many times in your life A Yes Okay Have men masturbated in front of you A No while you were giving lap dances A No Has there been a period in your life other than when you were in jail since you turned age when you first started eating Xanax that you were not using drugs A Has there say it again Sure Okay you testified that you started using drugs when you were or A Um-hmm correct A Correct And you were smoking weed you said A Um-hmm FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Okay cocaine meth Okay A acid Wait wait wait you ve done cocaine A Correct Okay When you say meth what do you mean by that A Methamphetamine Okay Acid is that LSD A Correct Uh-huh What other drugs were you doing at this time period A Pills What kind of pills A Like opiates Opiates A Yes Oxycodone A Yes Okay Any other opiates that you were taking during this time period where you were using drugs and/or not in prison or were not pregnant A No thats about it Okay Heroin A Yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Yes A Yes Okay Eating Xanax A Yes Okay And drinking A Correct correct Okay Other than times that youve been in jail was there a time when you were sober and you werent doing drugs during that time the time you were until todays date A Besides me being in this being in prison for this amount of time no Okay so during your entire childhood through adulthood other than the time you ve been in jail youve been a drug user MR EDWARDS Objection misstates testimony THE WITNESS When I was pregnant too When I was pregnant with my son for the nine months I BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay you abstained A Correct during that time period Okay What other drugs have you done during that time period A I done a lot of drugs Well lets go through them then FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay Have you shot heroin A Yes Okay With a needle A Yes Okay Fentanyl Did you ever do Fentanyl A Yes Okay What other drugs Am I missing any A No thats about it Okay During the time that you were going to Jeffrey Epsteins home were you doing all the drugs weve just talked about A No I was smoking I started smoking weed and doing Xanax and drinking Okay so during the time that you would have gone to Jeffrey Epsteins house you were smoking weed A Um-hmm Doing Xanax A Um-hmm And drinking A Correct Okay When you testify in May of at your deposition A Um-hmm okay were you doing drugs at that time A I don believe that I went to the deposition on FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA drugs no Okay Were you using drugs at or around the time that you gave the deposition in May of MR SCAROLA Object to the form of the question MR EDWARDS Object to form MR SCAROLA vague also compound MR GOLDBERGER You can answer THE WITNESS Yes MR GOLDBERGER Okay THE WITNESS Sure MR GOLDBERGER And what drugs were you using around May of MR SCAROLA Same objection THE WITNESS The same drugs I just weed xanax drinking at night BY MR GOLDBERGER Well when did the heroin and the Oxycodone start A That didnt start until I was like Okay So that would have been Im sorry What year were you born A All right And you said you started doing heroin Oxycodone in when you were FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA stuff that I once I started doing drugs I just you know traumatic events I really dont have You dont have A besides other traumatic events A I mean things that have happened to me when I was like a young a young girl and stuff like that but Tell me about those A It starts with Jeffrey Epstein going and taking you know bringing girls to Jeffrey young girls like myself who you know suffer with the same things that I suffer with are drug addicts half of them now Since Ive been in prison Ive met three girls that I brought to Jeffreys you know since Ive been here so Here in this prison A Yeah in this prison Okay Who are they A One of the girls name is Jacqueline Miller fes Who else A I dont feel comfortable I dont want to give these peoples name if they don want me to Well Im ask you the question so MR SCAROLA Excuse me lets take just a moment FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A When I was Im so All right so that would have been two thousand and oh you I re now A Yes So sometime around is when you started doing heroin A Yes And Oxycodone A Correct Okay And you blame your heroin and Oxycodone use on Jeffrey Epstein A I believe thats like the root you know the root issue here yes Okay When you say root issue what do you mean by that I don understand that A I believe that was the first traumatic event that happened in my life at age I started eating the Xanax and stuff like that to go to Jeffreys to make me feel more comfortable and I feel like ever since then once I started taking the Xanax ever since then its just been a real downward thing for me my whole life What other traumatic events have occurred in your life that have caused you to use heroin and Oxycodone and other illegal/illicit drugs A Besides just you know the drug use like the FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Um-hmm Whereupon a pause was had in the deposition MR GOLDBERGER Can she answer or do you have some sort of objection MR SCAROLA Pardon me MR GOLDBERGER Can she answer or do you have an objection MR SCAROLA We havent raised an objection BY MR GOLDBERGER A know A Okay Do you recall the names of anyone else I dont know their first and last names no Okay so Jacqueline Miller is the only one you Yes the first one Okay So when you say three others Um-hmm there are are there two others A Theres two other besides Jackie Miller that I I ve met since Ive been here yes Okay And you brought them to Jeffrey Epsteins house A I havent but they had been Okay And you dont remember their names A No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA I see So what other traumatic events occurred in your life early on that caused you to use drugs heroin and other opiates MR EDWARDS Objection compound question misstates her testimony BY MR GOLDBERGER Were there other events in your life that caused you to use drugs A Yeah there were other events Okay so tell me about those events if you would A My I grew up with no dad so that was an event When did your dad leave your life A My mom and my dad got divorced when I was young Okay so that was one of the traumatic events that caused you to use drugs A Sure thats one of the reasons yeah What else A I cant really think of anything else right now Okay was there a suicide by somebody that was close to you A Yeah my ex-boyfriend committed suicide but that wasn until I was like I was older How old were you FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA you felt was A It was he was laying next to me and he got a hard-on and it made me feel uncomfortable And I told my mom about it and my mom made him leave and everything else but it was still traumatic I knew it was wrong and it caused a whole big commotion when I was younger Um-hmm How old were you approximately when that occurred A Like maybe eight Okay And that was one of the traumatic events A Yeah that caused you to use drugs A Yeah Okay A I think it was a traumatic event I dont know it was the do you know what I mean These questions are a little tricky if MR SCAROLA Courtney you have an opportunity any time you want to to take a break to walk around THE WITNESS Yeah I do want to take MR SCAROLA visit the mens room ladies room if you want to THE WITNESS Okay Yeah thank you FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA the A I was like Im sorry to jump in How old were you when your boyfriend committed suicide A I think I was or All right And that was a traumatic event too A Yeah Okay A Very traumatic Are there any other traumatic events that you remember right now that caused you to use drugs A No not right now I cant remember Okay Were you ever abused by a stepfather or someone that your mother had a relationship with A There was an incident that my step dad made me feel uncomfortable Is that where I sorry do you want to keep you have more to answer A No Okay Is that where he did something inappropriate with a finger A He never did anything inappropriate with a finger Okay Is that where he French-kissed you A He never French-kissed me What was it that your mothers boyfriend did that FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA So you want to take a break now MR GOLDBERGER Subject to the approval of those that are MR SCAROLA Yeah yeah MR GOLDBERGER keeping you here VIDEOGRAPHER The time MR GOLDBERGER Yeah Im not sure Mr Scarola is a jail guard yet but if you feel comfortable taking a break Im happy to take a break THE WITNESS Yeah I do need to use the bathroom real quick MR SCAROLA Sure VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately a.m and we are off the record Whereupon a recess was had in the deposition VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately a and we I re back on the record MR GOLDBERGER Thank you BY MR GOLDBERGER Do you remember ever telling the FBI agent that you started stripping at age A No I dont remember that Okay Do you know what the non-prosecution FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA agreement is Do you know what Im talking about when I talk about that A Yes Okay What does that mean to you A Its its where its not I cant really explain it into words Okay A what Do your best to tell me what it means to you A I cant even really explain Okay A what it is Well whatever it is is it your testimony that you did not know a non-prosecution agreement existed A Right You never know about that A No is that correct A Right Okay Before the non-prosecution agreement was signed no one told you about that A No somebody came to my work to my work and told me that they were FBI agents came that they were considering settling you know that Jeffrey was going to plead out to charges and everything else I didnt I FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA had been brought up So she wanted to come and tell me about Okay And it was your understanding that Mr Epstein was still going to be prosecuted for a federal offense A Right Because the because the federal because they were involved and when they were investigating me asking me questions they were telling me how you know hes done this internationally to all these women I didnt think that it was just Palm Beach County state you know Palm Beach County was just going to charge him I thought he was being charged you know what I mean federally so I was confused It was a misunderstanding of exactly of what and who was charging him I didnt understand that So it was a misunderstanding A I mean I the feds came to my work and told me that he was being charged he was it was a possibility he would be charged by the state I didn I think that had anything to do with their federal case that they had on him Was that before or after you met with Agent Nesbitt Kuyrkendall at a Publix grocery store in Palm Beach Gardens in A That that was the same day I worked at FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA didnt understand that he was pleading out to state I thought that there was a federal case that he was still going to be charged for Thats how I under it A Where were you working when they came to see you Sallys Beauty Supply Supply A A A A Okay so FBI agents came to Sal I Beauty Yes Was it a female agent Yes Kuyrkendall does that ring any bells I think it was Nesbitt or Nesbitt Kuyrkendall Yeah Okay And your recollection is that she came to you at this beauty salon store A Correct And what is it that you remember her telling you ma am A She told me that there it was good news that there it was that they were considering Jeffrey Epstein signing an agreement to plead guilty for whatever charges I cant remember she said and but that was going to it wasnt something that was going to happen right away and but that it was something that FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Sallys Beauty Supply and I walked out of during my break I went to the Publix to talk to her I see And that was in October of A Yes Okay And you deny that Ms Kuyrkenda Agent Kuyrkendall told you that there would never be a federal prosecution of Jeffrey Epstein A I dont she said I dont think she said that to me Okay Were you doing drugs at that time A No That wasnt A I That was a period of time when you were not doing drugs A I wasnt when I was at work I was not on drugs when she told me that All right But during that period of time not the specific time that you met with the agent were you in one of your periods where you were doing drugs A Yes Okay A Sure And you dont have a recollection of Agent Kuyrkendall telling you that there would not be a federal FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA prosecution of Mr Epstein A No I dont remember her saying that to me I see Do you remember having a discussion with the federal agents that as part of Mr Epsteins agreement he had made some concessions that would make it easier for you to collect damages MR SCAROLA Objection leading THE WITNESS No BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay You don recall that A Meeting with who When you met with the agents do you recall whether they told you that as part of Mr Epsteins plea agreement he had reached an agreement to make concessions that would make it easier for you to obtain damages MR SCAROLA Objection leading THE WITNESS No I dont remember that MR GOLDBERGER Okay THE WITNESS I dont remember that BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay How many times did you meet with Agent Kuyrkendall A It was I met with her a couple times I cant remember the exact how many times I remember or met with her but I met with her probably a handful of times FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Im sorry THE WITNESS No Im done I dont MR GOLDBERGER Anything else you want to tell me before THE WITNESS No BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay How many times did you see this Randi was her name A Yeah I seen her a bunch of times I cant remember how many Less than ten A No more than ten More than ten A Yeah Okay Did you ever answer that question differently A I can remember MR SCAROLA Objection improper impeachment MR GOLDBERGER Were you told that prior to Mr Epstein entering his guilty strike that Were you told at any time that Mr Epstein as part of his plea agreement would be required to register as a sex offender for life MR SCAROLA Pardon me Im going to object FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA maybe three or four times Okay And did you meet with any other special agents of the FBI prior to Mr Epstein entering his plea A No Okay Did you meet with any U.S Attorneys Assistant United States Attorneys at any time during the pendency of Mr Epsteins cases A At one point I met with I met with a lady Maria Marie correct A Marie But I can I remember if he had already taken the plea or not I dont know if he take when I found out he had already plead out I I didnt even know that it had been so long afterwards that I know that I met with a group of women at a table and I know Marie told me that she was sorry for you know me being a victim of Jeffreys and that if there was anything she could help me with as far as victim services and stuff like that she would And she and they did they helped me get my my the lady I would go and talk to Randi Specielle phonetic like a counselor but How many times did you see MR SCAROLA Excuse me Multiple speakers unintelligible MR GOLDBERGER You can finish the answer FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA to that question to the extent that it may call for attorney client privileged communications BY MR GOLDBERGER Were you told by anyone from the FBI or the U.S Attorneys office that as part of Mr Epsteins plea agreement he was going to be required to register as a sex offender for life A I was never told I was they never I was kept in the dark when he pled out I didn know that my case had anything to do with what he was pleading out to so I was never told anything to him about him pleading out and what was going to Okay A I didn I know anything about it Do you recall meeting with Special Agent Nesbitt Kuyrkendall and Special Agent Jason Richards on October and being told that Mr Epstein was going to be required to register as a sex offender for life MR SCAROLA Objection THE WITNESS And that was at the Puhl ix MR GOLDBERGER Pardon THE WITNESS That was at the Publix that we met Because that was the only time that they ever came to me and told me that he was possibly going to be prosecuted it wasnt even it was up in the air FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA st i it was no definite BY MR GOLDBERGER My specific question was whether Mister whether you were told by agents of the FBI Special Agents with the FBI that Mr Epstein was going to be required to register as a sex offender for life A I dont remember ever being told that Okay And I want to make sure I understand what the agents told you about whether Mr Epstein whether they told you that Mr Epstein was entering a guilty plea to state charges and would not be prosecuted federally Your testimony is that you were never told that A She told me that it was a possibility he was going to be prosecuted and pled guilty to the state charges but I didnt my I didnt understand that that had anything to do with me being that you know there was so many more victims he was pleading out to two counts of solicitation of prostitution of a minor it didnt even make sense And I I explained that to the to the to both of the people that came and seen me Nesbitt and that guy that I didnt that charge doesnt even make sense for that makes you know thats why I didn I didnt think that had anything to do that had anything to do with me I know that when I seen it on the news and his mug FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA and your theory that youve explained to the court as to why Mr Epstein filed a claim against your client it is relevant and I recognize that you are advising the client not to answer the question or MR SCAROLA Shes not my client this is a witness MR GOLDBERGER And youre instructing MR SCAROLA And I am instructing her I am informing you that additional questions relating to the Crime Victims Rights Act case beyond those that have already been asked and answered are not relevant or material or reasonably calculated to lead to relevant and material information MR GOLDBERGER Well I MR SCAROLA You are excuse me MR GOLDBERGER Finish your proffer finish whatever you want to stay for the record MR SCAROLA Thank you You are annoying/harassing this witness and we will seek a protective order Obviously that can be done right now so proffer your questions and if theres any among them that I believe to be an exception to the position that Ive just stated Id be happy to allow her to answer otherwise Im telling you generally that additional questions regarding the Crimes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA shot it said that you know he was being it was two young girls under the age of I thought thats what it had to do with I didnt have any idea that it had to do with me or any of the other victims that he did sexually abuse MR SCAROLA Excuse me I Im going to interrupt for just a moment Do you have other questions relating to the Crime Victims Rights Act case MR GOLDBERGER I do MR SCAROLA Okay I am going to object to your examination of Ms Wild on issues relating to another case Those matters dont have any relevance or materiality to this lawsuit in which she is being deposed her counsel has not had an opportunity to prepare her for a deposition in the Crime Victims Rights Act case I am going to instruct her not to answer any additional questions regarding the Crime Victims Rights Act case You may proffer the additional questions that youd ike to ask for the record but she will not answer those pending our ability to obtain a protective order MR GOLDBERGER Well we have lots of questions that we intend to ask about the Crime Victims Rights Act and based on your cause of action FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Victims I Rights Act case we can consider to be entirely inappropriate MR GOLDBERGER Well I need to understand what your objection is Is it irrelevant or is it because she hasnt had an opportunity to speak to her counsel MR SCAROLA well it MR GOLDBERGER Two different issues Let me finish okay I need to know specifically what youre saying so I can determine how Im going to reply to what you re telling someone who is not your client to not answer so MR SCAROLA Both MR GOLDBERGER Okay Both what MR SCAROLA Both of the grounds that you have inquired about MR GOLDBERGER Are there any other grounds that you are using to advise someone who is not your client not to answer questions MR SCAROLA Well that really depends on what the additional questions are MR GOLDBERGER Well we have many additional questions MR SCAROLA Go ahead and ask them Proffer them for the record FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA I raise my object ion MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA and instruct the witness not to answer MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA and we move on from there MR GOLDBERGER All right MR SCAROLA And just so that things are abbreviated I will simply say same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Okay Well Id like if you have any additional objections other than she doesnt have an opportunity to consult with her attorney or you think its irrelevant then please state them MR SCAROLA And you are improperly seeking to take discovery in a case other than the case that is presently pending before the court MR GOLDBERGER Okay fair enough MR SCAROLA Before this court MR GOLDBERGER Okay At any time did the FBI agents did any FBI agents tell you that Mr Epstein was pleading guilty FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Do you recall receiving a letter from Ms Villafania when you met with the FBI at Publix in MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Do you deny that you had Ms Villafanias direct phone number to call her if you so decided MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Do you know whether the non-prosecution agreement made it easier for you to seek damages against Mr Epstein MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER How many times did you meet with the FBI at Publix to discuss the non-prosecution agreement involving Jeffrey Epstein MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction also repetitious MR GOLDBERGER Well I want to make sure we have a record MR SCAROLA You do MR GOLDBERGER Okay I dont think youre wearing the robe so Im going to decide whether I FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA in state court to avoid federal prosecution MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Okay Did you ask the FBI at any time to speak to prosecutors prior to Mr Epstein entering into his guilty plea MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Did you have the prosecutors phone number so you could call her MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Did you in fact receive a victims notification letter MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER And on that letter did it not have the prosecutors direct-dial number MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER And did the prosecutor in fact tell you in person that you could call her at any time to discuss this matter MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA have a record okay Do you recall being interviewed by Special Agent Nesbitt Kuyrkendall in August of THE WITNESS I cant remember the exact dates when I met with her MR GOLDBERGER Do you recall when you did meet with her at no time did you ask to confer with anyone from the government about any potential criminal charges decisions or about any partial resolution of the matter involving Jeffrey Epstein MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction also leading MR GOLDBERGER Is it true that between the time of that interview in August of and September of when Mr Epstein signed his non-prosecution agreement you never contacted either Agent Nesbitt Kuyrkendall or her co-agent asking for information about the investigation or asking to confer with anyone from the government about any potential criminal charges decisions or about the resolution of the matter MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction leading compound MR GOLDBERGER Do you recall being interviewed by Agent Nesbitt Kuyrkendall Marie FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Villafania Assistant United States Attorney and Myesha Braden from the Justice Department in January specifically January 31st of THE WITNESS Now who was it that I met with BY MR GOLDBERGER Yes well Im asking you whether you did meet a with then first of all okay January 31st did you participate in an interview with Marie Villafania A Um-hmm thats the Assistant United States Attorney Special Agent Nesbitt Kuyrkendall and Myesha M-y-e-s-h-a Braden from the Justice Department A I think thats the time that I met with I told you I met with a group of people and they were just going over the victims services like stuff that they could offer me to get therapy and stuff like that I believe thats the time Im not even a hundred-percent sure and I cant remember the peoples names that I met with I understand that Do you also remember by the way meeting with Willie Ferraire the U.S Attorney the acting U.S Attorney A Unh-unh No A No I don FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A What complaint Which The lawsuit A Yes Okay you ve reviewed it Okay Okay Im going to read you part of that complaint that you said youve reviewed The Plaintiff is included in the list of victims identified by the federal MR SCAROLA Excuse me would you identify MR GOLDBERGER Yes MR SCAROLA what you are reading from MR GOLDBERGER The complaint your client filed MR SCAROLA You mean the complaint that Mr Edwards filed on behalf of Ms Wild MR GOLDBERGER The complaint that your client Brad Edwards filed on behalf of Ms Wild yeah MR SCAROLA And that complaint had subsequent amendments MR GOLDBERGER Right MR SCAROLA so are you reading from the original complaint or an amended complaint MR GOLDBERGER Its the same whether its in the complaint or the amended complaint the paragraph that were going to talk about is in both FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay Do you recall getting a letter from Special Master Judge Davis identifying Robert Josefsberg as an attorney that the court would find to help sue Mr Epstein for restitution A I believe I did receive a mail or a letter stating something like that that they would they would give me an attorney but I cant remember exactly what it said Okay You elected not to take advantage of that you used Mr Edwards as your attorney A Yeah I think by that time you might have been my attorney already yeah Okay And the lawsuit that Mr Edwards filed on MR SCAROLA The record will reflect that the you in that response was a reference to Mr Edwards MR GOLDBERGER Okay By the way Im done I think I done with the areas I want to proffer about the NPA so we re going to move on MR SCAROLA Thank you MR GOLDBERGER some other stuff BY MR GOLDBERGER Have you ever actually reviewed the complaint that Mr Edwards filed on your behalf FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA complaints so you could use the amended complaint or you can use the original complaint MR EDWARDS What what MR GOLDBERGER Paragraph yes MR SCAROLA Im sorry which one MR GOLDBERGER And it may be in the amended complaint but its the same ex.act paragraph MR SCAROLA Well I have in front of me the third amended complaint MR GOLDBERGER Can I take a look at it then Maybe I can make the record better if I take a look at that BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay Mr Edwards on your behalf filed several complaints on behalf amended several complaints A Right Okay And are you aware of a federal lawsuit he also prepared A Right the Yes yes A The CVR No Okay A Which lawsuit are we talking about Well lets hold that thought we come back Im not talking about the CVRA case FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Okay Im talking about another lawsuit that he prepared and we ll come back to that in a minute By the way when you worked at the strip clubs before you were A Um-hmm did you have an adult entertainment card A No Do you know what that is A Um-hmm Okay What is that A It a icense that you have to have to to dance They made it that you have to have it now but before you didnt have to have it But some people did if they would go out of the county like out of Palm Beach County Yeah And how old did you have to be to get a adult entertainment card A Okay So you were dancing without a card before you were A I was dancing without a card when I was Okay How about before you were Were you dancing without a card A No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Are you sure of that A Not to my knowledge I can I remember him ever saying anything about Okay Do you remember telling the FBI agents when you were interviewed on August 7th of that Mr Epstein counseled you to not use drugs A I dont remember MR EDWARDS Objection improper impeachment If the witness can see the statement MR GOLDBERGER You dont remember Would you read the memorandum of interview dated August 7th Im going to direct you to I only have one copy you want to look at it first MR SCAROLA Yes thank you Is there a particular section you want to call attention to MR GOLDBERGER Yep Actually I maybe do have another copy No different different interview MR SCAROLA Do you want to mark the section that youd like us to MR GOLDBERGER I might MR SCAROLA us and the witness to review MR GOLDBERGER I might Here you go MR SCAROLA Do you have the first two pages FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA No you were not A I wasnt dancing before if I a couple times that I would go dance it would be like one night I went to a strip club with a bunch of my friends and I got on stage and made some money and that was it But I wasnt like working there I wasn I even supposed to be on stage or anything like that All right At any time when you went to Jeffrey Epsteins house were there ever any drugs there Mr Mr A No Did you ever see any drugs there A No Were you ever given alcohol when you were at Epsteins home A No Did you ever see Mr Epstein drink A No When I say drink I mean alcohol A Right Okay Were you ever given any pills or drugs at Epsteins home A No Did Mr Epstein ever give you advice about not using illegal drugs A No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA of this document MR GOLDBERGER I do not Maybe I do Yep No different interview We have not the complete document but I am concerned about a specific reference in the memorandum of interview concerning whether Mr Epstein advised the witness to not use controlled substances and showing her the document to refresh her recollection MR SCAROLA And both we and the witness have a right to review the document in its entirety Im going to object to its use in partial form but we MR GOLDBERGER Here you go MR SCAROLA nonetheless MR GOLDBERGER Heres the whole document MR SCAROLA Thank you Do you have this document in un-redacted form so we can identify who these people are MR GOLDBERGER It has never been provided as you know as a former prosecutor Mr Scarola certain items are privileged and protected at that is what we received from the FBI MR SCAROLA But that not a response to my question MR GOLDBERGER Yeah well FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA Do you have this document in un-redacted form so that we can identify who the interviewee and interviewers are MR GOLDBERGER Ive given you everything that actually we probably took it off the discovery you provided to us so you have everything that we have MR SCAROLA Okay thank you And you would like the witness to look at the MR GOLDBERGER Its a simple question MR SCAROLA three lines that are highlighted well you have one line highlighted actually but do you want her to look at all three lines in that very-short paragraph MR GOLDBERGER If Ive highlighted one line and you think the question is requires her to look at the three lines she may look at the three lines MR SCAROLA Well the one line you highlighted for the record read Epstein with massages said that Epstein tried to provide her MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA Is that what MR GOLDBERGER Is there more there that I mean I dont want to play games if you think theres more FOR THE RECORD REP0RTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA There are no notes on it MR GOLDBERGER Let me take a look at it MR SCAROLA Except for your yellow highlighting MR GOLDBERGER Let me take a look at it One copy I think I put some notes on it Sure MR SCAROLA Thank you For the record I am marking this document consisting of five pages and I am placing Exhibit Number in the lower right-hand corner Whereupon Exhibit No was marked for identification BY MR GOLDBERGER You ever refer to Jeffrey Epstein as a fucking Jew A I may have When did you do that ma I am When did you refer to Mr Epstein as a fucking Jew A I dont know in my past I may have said that How many times have you referred to Mr Epstein as a fucking Jew A I don remember More than once A Yes That was hateful FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA I dont want to play games either I just want to know what it is that you want to call the witnes attention to BY MR GOLDBERGER I am highlighting the entire paragraph REDACTED used illegal drugs during the year Ill read it into the record REDACTED used illegal drugs during the year she provided Epstein with massages REDACTED said that Epstein tried to provide her with advice regarding controlled substances Thats what Im asking you Whether it refreshes your memory as to whether Mr Epstein ever gave you any advice about using illegal drugs A I cant remember that Okay fair enough MR SCAROLA I would like this document marked as MR GOLDBERGER Sure MR SCAROLA deposition an exhibit to the MR GOLDBERGER We can do it in a moment Well put it over here MR SCAROLA Do you mind if I just write Exhibit Number on the bottom right-hand corner MR GOLDBERGER Well thats let me make sure my notes aren FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Yes it was That was anti-semitic A Yes How many people have you called how many have you said to strike that Have you told more than one person that Mr Epstein was a fucking Jew A Yes possibly And as you sit here today you dont know who you made that anti-semitic remark to A I cant remember who I said that to When did you first meet Mr Edwards A Let I see its been probably I can I remember how long its been since I met you Its been a while Do you know how you met Mr Edwards A Yes through Jay Howell Jay Howel is a lawyer A Yes Would that have been back in or perhaps A That sounds about right yes Okay Do you know Paul Cassel A Yes Okay Have you met Paul Cassel A Yes How many times have you met Paul Cassel FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Maybe like three times Okay Once when you were brought over in custody for the mediation in the CVRA case A Yes And you I ve met him other times A Yes Two other times A Yes Okay You know youre a plaintiff in that CVRA case right A Yes Okay Did you sign any kind of engagement letter on that case A I dont understand what that means Sure When you sued Mr Epstein for A Uh-huh you signed a contract right A Right And it set forth the terms for which was going to represent you right A A Right Did you I dont Okay sign one of those on the CVRA believe so no Are you funding the CVRA case money Mr Edwards case also in any way Okay Can I see that document please How old were you when you first met Mr Epstein A I was Do you remember telling the FBI that you were close to when you met Mr Epstein A I dont remember saying that Would it refresh your memory to look at the exhibit that Mr Scarola has marked as Exhibit And let me direct you to the second full paragraph MR SCAROLA May I see that first please THE WITNESS Um-hmm MR SCAROLA And your question is does this paragraph refresh MR GOLDBERGER Her MR SCAROLA Ms Wilds recollection that she told the FBI that she was MR GOLDBERGER Very good Correct MR SCAROLA Do you want to read that paragraph again and see MR GOLDBERGER Sure MR SCAROLA whether that I the quest ion that you want to ask since it doesn say anything like that In fact it says she was MR GOLDBERGER Who close to turning A No Did you tell the FBI FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA Well is there a difference between being and MR GOLDBERGER Not really Not in my mind MR SCAROLA Okay MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA And not Mr Epsteins either I guess MR GOLDBERGER Okay Move to strike BY MR GOLDBERGER Did you tell the FBI that you were close to when you first met Mr Epstein A I cant really remember me ever saying I was years old Okay Do you remember telling Mr Epstein when you first met him that you were A No Okay Would it refresh your memory to look at the memorandum of interview concerning the interview you did with the FBI in August of and what you told the agent about what you told Mr Epstein is your age MR SCAROLA Excuse me Im going to object to the form of the question It assumes that the redactions in that document which obviously relate to multiple individuals identify Ms Wild as a particular speaker FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Okay Having said that would you look at that and see if it refreshes your recollection as to whether you told Mr Epstein when you first met him you were years old MR SCAROLA The same second paragraph MR GOLDBERGER Same second paragraph thank you The last line of the second paragraph MR SCAROLA The last line MR GOLDBERGER Um-hmm THE WITNESS No I dont remember saying that BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay Did you in fact tell Mr Epstein that you were when you first met him no A No Did you tell him how old you were A I don believe I ever told him how old I was MR GOLDBERGER Okay Here you go Im going to go into some additional questions about the CVRA and I recognize that youre going to instruct the witness not to answer the quest ions and so we have some ground rules for this is it the same objections that its irrelevant and she does not have the ability to consult with her lawyer or do you want FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA me to ask the questions first MR SCAROLA No no that not an accurate statement MR GOLDBERGER Well give me your accurate assessment then MR SCAROLA Yes The questions are irrelevant immaterial not reasonably calculated to lead to the discovery of relevant and material information in this lawsuit MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA In addition to that this witness was not noticed as being deposed in a separate CVRA action Her counsel with regard to the separate CVRA action were not noticed therefore her counsel have not had an opportunity to consult with her regarding giving testimony in the separate CVRA MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA action So those are the objections that were previously raised in addition to others stated as to specific questions they are of the objections that I will incorporate simply by saying same objection same instruction for purposes of not burdening the record with repetition of the same objection and same instructions MR GOLDBERGER Have you now stated all the FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA lawsuit MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Have you ever discussed with any non-lawyer or someone working for a lawyer the reasons for filing the CVRA case MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Do you realize that if you prevail on the CVRA case and the non-prosecution agreement is ruled void any civil settlement that relied on the Civil Victims Rights Act case could be vacated MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction also calls for a legal conclusion MR GOLDBERGER Okay MR SCAROLA Based upon an improper hypothesis MR GOLDBERGER Are you seeking an apology from the government for the filing of the CVR by filing the CVRA case MR SCAROLA Same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Is that important to you ma am FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA objections you want to state concerning any questions Im going to have concerning the CVRA subject to a specific question MR SCAROLA I have stated all of the objections that I wish to incorporate in an abbreviated object ion and instruct ion MR GOLDBERGER Okay What were your goals as a plaintiff in filing the CVRA case MR SCAROLA same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Okay Was one of your goals to invalidate the non-prosecution agreement MR SCAROLA same objection same instruction MR EDWARDS can we just take one one second MR GOLDBERGER Yeah you want to talk her thats fine Whereupon a pause was had in the deposition MR GOLDBERGER Are you good MR SCAROLA Yeah MR GOLDBERGER Okay Have you ever discussed with Tatum Miller the filing of the CVRA FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA same objection same instruction MR GOLDBERGER Are you attempting to punish Jeffrey Epstein by causing the loss of the non-prosecution agreement MR GOLDBERGER Same objection same actually I will withdraw that objection THE WITNESS What was the quest ion BY MR GOLDBERGER Um-hmm Are you attempting to punish Jeffrey Epstein by causing the non-prosecution agreement to be set aside A I I just feel like justice should be served and he should be put in jail for the crimes hes committed Okay Do you blame him for being in jail right now maam A No I Ive made my own choices but I do believe that a lot of the trauma that I have is due to what happened to me when I was a young girl because of Jeffrey I want to talk to you a little bit about Tatum Miller when did you first meet her A When I was like years old And was Tatum Miller younger or older than you FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA when you met her A Younger How much younger A Shes like a year younger than me Okay And where did you meet her A I met her through a friend Did you meet her at a party perhaps A I cant remember exactly I know I met her through a friend though Um-hmm Okay What friend was that A I think it was my a boy that I was dating named Jessie Okay A But he was just we were just friends at first but I think thats how or maybe I cant remember can remember Do you know a boy named Bobby A Unh-unh Okay A No Do you know where the party was A No I dont remember that Okay Would you consider Tatum Miller to be good friend when you first met her A Yeah FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA your Do you know how many times you I ve had oral sex with Tatum Miller A No Okay Is Tatum Miller the one who recruited you to go to Jeffrey Epsteins home A Yes Yes A Yes Okay Did you go to Mr Epsteins house together the first time A Yeah Okay At other times that you may have been at Mr Epsteins house did you see Tatum Miller there A Any time I if I didnt go with her it was sometimes Id go by myself sometimes Id bring girls I never went there and Tatum was there Okay Did you ever talk to her about Mr Epstein A Yes Okay What discussions did you have concerning Mr Epstein A I cant remember the discussions now what we talked about Do you know if Ms Miller had ever claimed whether Mr Epstein was physically violent to her FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay And does she continue to be your good friend A Were still friends Okay A I havent talked to her in a while though Okay Was there a time where you lived actually Tatum Millers father let you live at his house A Yes Okay And when was that ma am A When I was for two years Okay Did you ever have sex with Tatum Miller A No not when I was a young girl I dont think that we did Okay Did you ever have oral sex with Tatum Miller prior to being her A A A A Yes Okay When did that take place I cant remember Okay exactly Was it at a party or was it in private I can remember Okay But you do remember having oral sex with A I know that we have yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A I dont believe shes ever said that to me Okay Did Ms Miller tell you in going to MR GOLDBERGER You can go ahead MR EDWARDS I feel like that canteen would be useful right now THE WITNESS Yeah MR GOLDBERGER Go off the record for a second Whereupon a pause was had in the deposition MR GOLDBERGER Back on I saw it coming BY MR GOLDBERGER Did Ms Miller tell you that in going to Mr Epsteins house your choice to get naked was in fact a choice that you could make A Yeah she said that he would like if I took all my clothes off but I didnt have to I could keep my panties on if I wanted to Okay Did Ms Miller tell you to lie about your age when going to Mr Epsteins house A No Now did Ms Miller tell you that as part of a massage Mr Epstein would ejaculate into his own hand A Yeah she did tell me that Um-hmm And did she tell you that prior to your FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA going there A She really didnt I dont I cant remember if she said that to me or not I don reason I want to say she didnt but I long I dont know for some its been so So your recollection is at some point Ms Miller told you that Mr Epstein would ejaculate into his hand A Yes I think so But you don remember when she told you this A Right right Okay Had he ever ejaculated into his hand while you were massaging him prior to Ms Miller telling you that liHe being Mr Epstein Im sorry A I mean the first time I went to ever met him thats what he did he ejaculated into his own hand so So A After the first time we didnt really have to talk about it because thats something that did happen So you have a recollection of Ms Miller having told you that Mr Epstein would ejaculate into his hand during a massage A I cant remember if she told me or not Okay A before we went Okay FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA So being advised that that might happen occurred prior to your first visit with Mr Epstein A I cant remember if she I mean I guess so Okay A Im not really sure Do you know whether Tatum Miller works as a prostitute A I dont know I havent talked to her in a couple years Okay Do you know whether she was working as a prostitute after she last saw Jeffrey Epstein A No I dont know Okay A if she was Did you go with Tatum to New York on a trip paid by some men A Yes Okay And during that trip that you went to New York with some men did Tatum leave to go on some prostitution dates A Im not sure where she went when she left But she left A Yeah Okay Did you ever visit Tatum at Fantasies where she worked FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA THE WITNESS Do ya want to take a break MR SCAROLA Sure if you like to THE WITNESS Okay yeah MR SCAROLA Yes VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately p.m and were off the record Whereupon a recess was had in the deposition VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately p.m and were back on the record MR GOLDBERGER Thank you BY MR GOLDBERGER All right so you testified I believe and correct me if Im wrong that you had some sort of discussion with Tatum Miller about Jeffrey Epstein ejaculating into his hand while getting a massage correct A Right And you dont re cal when that when you were told that that would occur A Right Okay But did you also testify that the first time you gave a massage to Mr Epstein he ejaculated into his hand A Yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A I cant I dont think so Okay Do you know what Fantasies is A Unh-unh Okay A Well I know that she worked at some place like that but I cant remember the name of it What do you mean by that what do you mean by nsome place like that what is that1t A Like a like a prostitution house or whatever I dont know what you call it Okay Did you ever use the term Jack Shack A Okay yeah What is a Jack Shack A Like a prosecution house Okay And you knew that Tatum worked at a Jack Shack A Um-hmm Okay Did you ever see any websites offering Tatum Millers services A No I dont was your mother a drug addict is your mother a drug addict also A Shes been clean for the past six years but when I was young she was 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Jeffrey Epsteins home to work as a massage to give massages to Mr Epstein A Like or girls Okay And did you receive money for bringing people to Mr Epsteins home ll that A Yes Do you know who DO is A Unh-unh Okay Did you keep a list or a journal of people you took to Mr Epsteins home A No You didnt do that No you did not A No Okay A I did not Did you take women who were of age meaning over age to Mr Epsteins home for massages A No I always took people that were underage Okay Do you ever remember answering that question differently whether you brought girls who were FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay well you took do you remember being asked this question Well you know you took MD because she was ll Your answer I probably took about three girls of age over?n that Your question You mean that were or And your answer ncorrect Okay so does do you remember having A Theres yeah I know that I took the one girl Amy but Im theres possibly a couple more I know that everybody else that I took was underage Right And then you went on to say that you took to girls allegedly who were under to Mr Epstein house MR SCAROLA No she did not say allegedly The question is How many girls do you believe that you took under Answer nAt least at least to BY MR GOLDBERGER And every one of those girls that you took to Mr Epsteins home whether they were of age or underage you received money for bringing them there did you not A Yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA ll0 over the age of to Mr Epsteins home A Actually now that I think about it there was this girl named Amy that was over age that went to him but I dont remember bringing anybody else besides her Do you remember giving a deposition on May in this case or in the related case A Yes And were you sworn to tell the truth in that deposition A Right And were you telling the truth A Yes And did you have your lawyer Brad Edwards there with you during that deposition A Yes Do you remember giving an answer to this question Well you know you took MD because she was Page Line Well you know MR SCAROLA May we have a copy of the deposition MR GOLDBERGER Yeah Do you have an extra copy Page MR BREWER I do Page MR SCAROLA Okay thank you FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay Did you ever break into Mr Epsteins home burglarize his home ll2 A No I did go there one time and I didnt never burglarize his home though Well did you enter his home without his permission A Yes So I guess that would be burglarizing it I guess you could say Okay A Yes I did do that one time What did you do A I went there without his permission And entered his home A Yes Okay Did you have someone with you when you did that A Yeah I had somebody that drove me there And who was that A I cant remember who it was now Did Mr Epstein ever call you on the telephone A Yes Okay And was there ever any discussion of sexual conduct during those phone calls A What do you mean by that Yeah did you talk about sex when he called you FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A No he just always asked me if I had anybody to bring to him Okay Did you ever call Mr Epsteins home and speak to either Mr Epstein or someone who worked for Mr Epstein and ask for permission to come over and give a massage A Yes Okay How many times did you do that A I cant remember how many times Did you ever ask to introduce another girl to Mr Epstein A Yeah he would ask me if I met a girl that wanted to come to him to call and let them know his secretary or him or whoever answered the phone normally it was his secretary if I called Any calls you made then would be calls to set up appointments right A Right No discussion about sex A Right During any of those phone calls did Mr Epstein say anything that he was attempting to persuade or induce you or entice you to engage in sex A No Okay Did you ever negotiate over the phone FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A No or anything ike that You knew you were going to his house to make money is that correct A Yes ll5 And you were acting as a prostitute when you went there A Yes Okay No one forced you to go it was your choice to go correct A Yes You had a choice to say no if you wanted to say no A Yes Was there ever any physical force that was used by anyone at Mr Epsteins home to coerce you or force to engage in any act A No Did Mr Epstein ever threaten to use physical force against you A No Did Mr Epstein ever use physical violence against you A No Did Mr Epstein ever raise his voice to you you A Never like face-to-face A couple times there FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA prices or anything like that A No Did you ever email with Mr Epstein in any way A No Did you ever have any kind of internet conversation with Mr Epstein A No Did you ever have any text conversation with Mr Epstein ll A No Did Mr Epstein ever have any email or internet conversation with you about bringing another person to his home A No To give a massage Im talking about A Right Okay Did anyone either employed by Mr Epstein or associated with Mr Epstein ever email you A No Did you ever travel with Mr Epstein A No Did Mr Epstein use his own name when he spoke to you A Jeffrey yeah Didnt use a name ike Taylor FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA was times I was supposed to bring a girl and the girl canceled or the girl ended up not wanting to come or something like that so there was a couple times on the phone where he yelled at me like just frustrated about me not bringing the girl Okay Other than that any other yelling A No When you were brought there the first you were brought there the first time by Tatum correct A Um-hmm And Tatum Tatum Miller told you that it was your choice whether to take off your clothes or not A Yeah she said that he wanted me to take off my clothes but I didnt have to get completely naked I could keep my panties on if I wanted to Okay I my math is correct and correct me if I wrong Mr Edwards has represented you for ten years now is that correct A Yes Okay Is there any time during the last ten years that Mr Edwards has not represented you A No Okay Did you fire him at any time A No Okay Did he ever get you a lawyer on any of the FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA well on this criminal case that has you in prison right now A No did he ever get you a lawyer at any other time A No Okay You knew at some point that he that he Mr Edwards went to work for the Rothstein Adler firm A Yes Okay When did you learn that ma am A I went one time I went to the law form to meet him just to I cant even remember what it was for and I know that he just moved different law firms but Okay And Im talking about the law firm Rothstein Rosenfeldt and Adler right A Yes Were talking about the same firm A Right And you went to that law firm to meet Mr Edwards A Yes Okay And you dont know when that was A No Okay Who did you meet when you went to the law FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Okay How long were you there when you went there A I cant remember how long I was there maybe an hour Okay Did you learn at some point that Mr Epstein Im sorry that Mr Edwards was sued by Mr Epstein as being part of the Rothstein form MR SCAROLA Excuse me if MR GOLDBERGER Without MR SCAROLA If any knowledge you have MR GOLDBERGER Yeah MR SCAROLA with regard to the lawsuit by Mr Epstein against Brad is information that Brad communicated to you during the course of your attorney/client relationship with Brad you should not respond to that question If you know anything at all about that lawsuit from some source other than communications with Brad then by all means you are entitled to and obliged to answer that question THE WITNESS Okay MR GOLDBERGER Thats correct Thats correct THE WITNESS Yeah so I dont want to answer it I guess I I I I FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA firm A I just met Brad Brad Edwards A Brad Edwards Did you meet any of the other people that worked there A No I cant remember meeting anybody else Did you meet any investigators A No Mr Fisten phonetic A No Did you meet Mr Ken Jenne who had formerly been the sheriff of Broward County A No Did you meet any other lawyers at the Edwards at the Rothstein office A No Did you meet any of Mr Edwards support staff A No So you went there and you walked in the door and you just met Mr Edwards and you didnt meet anybody else A I mean if I walked past other people there could have been working there thats a possibility but I didnt wasn I introduced to anybody or didnt have a conversation with anybody else FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR GOLDBERGER All right so what you re saying is that anything you learned you would have learned from Mr Edwards and you dido learn from anybody else A Right Okay Did you read anything about the Rothstein Ponzi scheme A Yeah I think I seen it on the news when it first happened when I was in West Palm Beach Okay And when you saw that on the news did you realize that Mr Edwards was working for that law firm A Yeah I think I actually called him and he Oon tell me what he told you A Okay Yeah Okay Did you discuss that with anybody else A No Okay When you learned about the Rothstein Adler Ponzi scheme that Mr Edwards was working there did it cause you to fire Mr Edwards A No Okay Did it cause you to doubt his professional competence in any way A No Okay Did you talk to Tatum Miller or Shawna Rivera about the Rothstein Ponzi scheme FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A I can I remember Okay Do you know whether either of those two women terminated their relationship with Mr Edwards as a result of the Rothstein Ponzi scheme A I don think so While your state case was pending in state court where you were seeking damages from Mr Epstein did you know that Mr Edwards also had asked to have prepared a federal lawsuit Im not talking about the CVRA case but a separate federal lawsuit seeking damages for you against Mr Epstein MR EDWARDS Object as to attorney/client privilege to the extent that she knows that information only from any conversation that she had with me MR GOLDBERGER Sure MR EDWARDS at that time MR GOLDBERGER Sure BY MR GOLDBERGER So other than conversations you had with Mr Edwards or one of the other lawyers working at the Rothstein Adler firm did you know that Mr Edwards had asked to be prepared a federal lawsuit that was the same lawsuit that was pending against Mr Epstein in state court FOR THE RECORD REPDRTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately p.m and we are off the record Whereupon a recess was had in the deposition VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately and we are back on the record BY MR GOLDBERGER I was asking you about whether you knew anything about this federal lawsuit that may or may not have been prepared Did you ever see a federal lawsuit other than the CVRA case Im not talking about that A No Okay Did you ever authorize the preparation of a separate federal lawsuit seeking damages from Mr Epstein in addition to the state court case MR EDWARDS I object attorney/client privilege to the extent that this is MR GOLDBERGER Let me just finish the question Let just finish the question okay MR EDWARDS Youre talking about authorized to me this is MR GOLDBERGER Yeah let me just finish the question MR EDWARDS communication with attorney FOR THE RECORD REFORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A No essentially the same claims A No Okay Do you know that he had asked his support staff to file or to prepare the same lawsuit in federal court that had been prepared on behalf of Tatum Miller MR SCAROLA Same instructions that is you should not answer that question if the source of any information if any was Brad Edwards If you obtained that information from some other source and you have any information in response to that question you can answer it THE WITNESS Okay so I guess I shouldnt answer it then BY MR GOLDBERGER Okay that I fine Has anyone shared any emails with you concerning instructions being given to file or to prepare a federal lawsuit for filing A No And I asking you specifically the time period just before the Rothstein form fell apart and Mr Rothstein was indicted A No MR GOLDBERGER Okay Can we just have a moment Off the record for a second FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Let me just finish the question then I get it okay MR EDWARDS Okay MR GOLDBERGER Did you ever authorize the filing of a federal lawsuit seeking damages against Mr Epstein that was similar or the same as the state case that Mr Edwards had filed on your behalf for damages against Mr Epstein MR EDWARDS Okay And before you would answer THE WITNESS Um-hmm MR EDWARDS if this is communication between me and you whether you to me or THE WITNESS Right MR EDWARDS me to you related to a egal decision that we were making at the time then Im instructing you not to answer because that could be invasion of the attorney/client privilege THE WITNESS Right MR GOLDBERGER Okay So with that instruction from your lawyer do you want to answer the question or not THE WITNESS No MR GOLDBERGER Okay Okay thats all the questions I have FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA CROSS EXAMINATION BY MR SCAROLA Ms Wild did you sue Jeffrey Epstein for having repeatedly sexually molested you because you actually were repeatedly sexually molested by Jeffrey Epstein A Yes MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form MR SCAROLA Was there any reason other than the fact that Jeffrey Epstein had repeatedly select excuse me repeatedly sexually molested you that you were suing Jeffrey Epstein MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Whether it was age or is there any doubt that Jeffrey Epstein began molesting you years before you turned MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Theres no doubt yeah he started molesting me when I was MR SCAROLA And did he continue to molest you for years after those molestations began MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yes BY MR SCAROLA You said that there were approximately to FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA Do you know how many of the offenses discussed today brought up by Mr Epsteins defense lawyer were offenses that occurred while you were a juvenile A There was one I got in trouble one time when I was a juvenile Okay So it was at least one of those offenses A Yes when you were a juvenile MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form BY MR SCAROLA There was also some discussion about how those offenses were disposed of Do you know the difference between a guilty plea and a plea of no contest A No contest is youre not plead youre not saying admitting to it fully correct I want you to assume that to be the case A Yeah Do you know which specific charges were disposed of by guilty plea as opposed to having been disposed of by a no-contest plea A No Im not sure All right And do you know that there is a difference between an adjudication of guilt and having an adjudication of guilt withheld by the court even after a FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA girls that you took to Jeffrey Epsteins home A Right Why did you bring those girls to Jeffrey Epsteins home A I guess to make money because he told me he would pay for dollars me and dollars for every girl I brought And were you in fact paid for the young girls that you brought to Mr Epsteins house A Yes You also said that the vast majority of those girls with the exception of perhaps two or three were underage A Yes Why were you bringing underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein home A Because he wanted he wanted the girls young There there was times I would bring girls that looked older or were older and he would just walk out He would he would leave the money on the counter and just walk out He wanted the girls young Your deposition began with some significant discussion about your involvement with criminal law do you recall that A Yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA plea of no contest A Right MR GOLDBERGER Objection object to the form of the question THE WITNESS Sorry say it again Say MR SCAROLA Do you recognize that there is a distinction as to whether the court adjudicates you guilty or withholds adjudication even after a plea of no contest to a criminal charge MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Right I know that theres a difference and I can even tell you really what the difference is BY MR SCAROLA Okay Do you know whether you were adjudicated guilty or whether adjudication was withheld with regard to each of the circumstances that Mr Epstein defense lawyer described A Yes I believe a couple of them were withheld adjudicated withheld Okay You told us that you started using drugs in when you were age correct A Yes Is there any doubt in your mind that your use of drugs began after Jeffrey Epstein began abusing you FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No BY MR SCAROLA You talked about having been naked in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein when you were years of age A Witness nods head Prior to having been naked in the presence of Jeffrey Epstein when you were had you ever previously been naked in the presence of a man MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Had you ever worked as a dancer or stripper before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to permit him to molest you MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Had you ever had a sexual experience with another female before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to permit him to sexually molest you MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Had you ever had a drug abuse problem before Jeffrey Epstein began regularly paying you for sex at age MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA many in West Palm Beach there so many girls I cant even give you a number of how many BY MR SCAROLA Prior to being introduced to Jeffrey Epstein what type of student were you A I was a straight-A student Were you involved in school activities A Yes I was a I was the captain of the cheerleading squad I played the trumpet I was first-year trumpet and I think thats it Which school did you go to A Lake Worth Middle Did you ever get to graduate from Lake Worth Middle School A Yes And did you go on to high school A No I the summer of eighth to ninth grade is when I met Jeffrey so I after thats kind of when I started going down hill When I went to ninth grade I just never went I went for maybe a week or so and then I even moved schools to John I Leonard and then I just dropped out There is some likelihood that this testimony will be presented to the jury by way of the videotape that is being taken of your testimony I would like you to tell FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Had you ever been convicted of a crime before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you at age to allow him to molest you MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA In addition to the to young girls that you personally were paid to bring to Mr Epstein home are you aware of others who were being paid by Jeffrey Epstein while they were under age to allow Jeffrey Epstein to sexually molest them MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yes MR SCAROLA can you give us an estimate as to the number of other girls apart from those that you brought THE WITNESS Um-hmm MR SCAROLA who were being paid by Jeffrey Epstein MR GOLDBERGER Form MR SCAROLA sexually molest them to allow Jeffrey Epstein to MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS There Is so theres so FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA the ladies and gentlemen of the jury as best youre able to how much money Jeffrey Epstein was paying you on an average during this period of time that you were being paid to bring girls to him for purposes of sexual molestation and during the period of time that you yourself were being paid to submit to sexual molestation by Jeffrey MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS I was being paid dollars for every girl There was a couple girls that looked real young that he would pay me dollars for to bring but I would bring him a girl sometimes twice a day Really once a day or some others just once but at least four or five times a week so I dont know if you do the math on that you know two four six eight thats at least dollars a week for just one girl for four days you know BY MR SCAROLA What were the economic circumstances of your family during this period of time before Jeffrey Epstein started to pay you those sums of money A I came from a a poor family you know Was your mom the sole support for your family A Yeah during that period of time FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A she was a single parent And did you have siblings A A brother but he didnt he moved with my my fathers parent my grandparents on my dads side so it was just me Okay So it was you and your mom A Um-hmm and your mom was the sole support of your household is that correct A Yes correct MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form BY MR SCAROLA Did she the work A She worked as a waitress And was your mom experiencing drug problems at the time when you first became involved with Jeffrey Epstein A Yes Describe the circumstances that led to your being introduced to Jeffrey Epstein A There there was just a couple there was an incident where my mom was switching apartments and we were going from one apartment to another and she was saving money or doing whatever she was doing and thats when I kind of started sleeping over at Tatums house a FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA would set up a massage table put towels on it get MR SCAROLA Let me interrupt you there for just a moment THE WITNESS Okay BY MR SCAROLA You re speaking of we A Right We being picked up by a driver or we taking a cab there and Epstein paying for the cab ride A Um-hmm Was it generally more than just you alone A Right it was either me and whoever I was bringing or you know when I first went me and Tatum And sometimes he would pay me and Tatum to go back Me and Tatum went together more than once you know Okay So I interrupted you in your description of what went on There was usually more than one girl there at a time MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yes MR SCAROLA What happened MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS So we would go upstairs and wed set up the massage table and we would get undressed and wait for him to walk in and he would FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA lot because my mom was having issues with you know with her car and just all types of stuff So it was more stable for me to live at Tatums or stay at Tatums house a lot And then when Tatums dad seen you know that my mom was having a hard time and then taking care of me on top of you know her just trying to survive pay her bills and stuff he allowed me to come stay there with him Did there come a point in time when a routine developed with regard to what would happen once you got to Jeffrey Epsteins mansion MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yes MR SCAROLA Would you describe to the jurors please what that routine was what typically happened MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS We would we would show up either he would have a driver come get us or we would take a cab there and he would pay for it And we would enter his house and we would up this like off to his kitchen there was a like a stairwell Wed go up to the stairwell and like to his bedroom Through his bedroom wed go into a bathroom but it was like you know as big as this room And we FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA walk in normally in like a robe and lay on the massage table And one girl you know would get on one side of him and I would get on the other and give him a massage for like minutes on each side of him And he would take like phone business cal ls like phone calls as we do that MR SCAROLA Im going to interrupt you again THE WITNESS Okay MR SCAROLA for just a moment You said that Jeffrey Epstein entered the room wearing a robe THE WITNESS Um-hmm MR SCAROLA and then got on the massage table THE WITNESS Um-hmm MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form MR SCAROLA Did he continue to wear the robe when he was on the massage table THE WITNESS No he would take it off and he wouldnt have any clothes on MR SCAROLA Okay THE WITNESS And we would just put like a towel over his butt while we massaged him FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR SCAROLA Tell us what happened next A And after he was done taking his phone calls and stuff like that he would flip over and if I was bringing a girl he would ask me to go downstairs and wait for her and either he would have the money when he came in he would put the money on the counter or you know I cant thats normally what he would do And so Id go downstairs and wait for the girl to get done and Id wait in the kitchen for her until she came down Were there circumstances where you were asked to participate in the sexual activity with Jeffrey Epstein before you left the girl that you had brought with you MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No normally he would just want one person there I mean unless if like when Tatum brought who got estimate room and activity me the first time you know I was the girl left in the room you know MR SCAROLA How many times if you can for us were you the girl who got left in were the one who was engaging in sexual with Jeffrey Epstein MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Several MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form the FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR SCAROLA Apart from his having well let me back up for just a moment Did Mr Epstein before you began bringing other girls to him offer you money for your bringing other girls to him A Yes Did you know how much you were going to get paid A I cant remember if he specified but I just know that I was given dollars so I think I made that conclusion but I cant remember if he specified that or not Other than your having been paid extra when the girls you brought were particularly young were there any other circumstances under which the payment that you received varied from the straight dollars MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No there was a couple times like there was a time that he brought another girl Like I went there by myself and he called me asked me to come over there and I went over there by myself and he brought somebody I cant remember the girls name into the room and he paid me extra to like to like I guess have a threesome so to speak with her I I I I I FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA times THE WITNESS I cant remember how many MR SCAROLA And THE WITNESS several MR SCAROLA when there was sexual activity between you and Jeffrey Epstein what occurred MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS He would want me to stand next to him and he would like just grab on to my grab on to my body and touch my just touch my body touch me while he jacked off And he wanted me to like rub his nipples and stuff like that BY MR SCAROLA All right Was there ever a circumstance where you engaged in sexual intercourse with Jeffrey Epstein A No Was there ever a circumstance where there was any oral sex between you and Jeffrey Epstein A No Did Jeffrey Epstein ever make any monetary promises to you for any future conduct in which he wanted you to engage MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR SCAROLA Do you ever recall having met a girl by the name of Nadia A Yes while you were at Jeffrey Epsteins home A Yes And do you know whether the girl that you are referring to as having been brought in the room for a threesome was named Nadia A Yeah that was her name And does the last name Marcinkova mean anything to you A I cannot I can remember her last name but Im sure thats it Can you describe to us What did Nadia look like A Yeah she was really pretty shes blond hair she couldnt speak any English Like green eyes tall skinny When you left the room leaving behind someone whom you had brought A Um-hmm to Jeffrey Epsteins house did you ever have any conversation with those young girls that you brought to Mr Epsteins house about what went on when you left FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA the room MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yeah they would but a lot of the times I wouldn I want to tell them exactly what would happened so I would just tell them that you know you dont have to get you can leave your bra and panties on and he just wants to look at your body and hes probably going to jack off.n I would tell them that MR SCAROLA All right And did you have conversations with any of those girls afterwards about what had actually happened when you left them alone with Jeffrey Epstein MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS There there was a couple times that girls came down and they just looked traumatized but they Amy that I brought to nobody and the one girl another time she was of age she said that something transpired between the two of them where she was real mad at him but she wouldnt tell me what happened either BY MR SCAROLA Okay Was there any session with Jeffrey Epstein in which you were involved that began as a massage that did not progress to sexual touching FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A Yes And tell us about that meeting MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS She was she was his assistant and she would answer the phone and any time I would go over there I would I would meet her She was normally at a desk like working and stuff like that but she was always real nice to me just like you know kind of short I didnt hang out with her or anything but I met her almost every time I went there MR SCAROLA Was Sarah Kellen ever present in the room when Jeffrey Epstein was engaging in the sexual molestation of young girls MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No never with me there no BY MR SCAROLA Was Sarah Kellens position in the house such that young girls entering and leaving the house would generally have to encounter Sarah Kellen in that coming-and-going process A Yes Did you cooperate with the federal government in the investigation of Jeffrey Epstein A Yes FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA A No Apart from the one circumstance that you have described with Nadia were there any other circumstances where Jeffrey Epstein had you engage in sexual activity with any other person in his presence MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR GOLDBERGER Ill withdraw the objection MR SCAROLA Its too late now Do you know whether there were any other girls besides you who were being paid to bring underage girls to Jeffrey Epstein for purposes of sexual conduct MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yes BY MR SCAROLA Who else do you know of A Tatum This girl Amanda I can remember everybodys name right Do you have any idea how many girls Tatum brought separate and apart from the or that you brought A Yeah she brought several She brought way more than I did Did you ever meet a woman by the name of Sarah Kellen FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA And did you hire Brad Edwards for the purpose of enforcing your legal rights in claims against Jeffrey Epstein A Yes Did Jeffrey Epstein ultimately pay to settle your claim for damages against him A Yes Could you describe for us your physical appearance when you first started to go to Jeffrey Epstein Palm Beach mansion MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS Yeah I was years old I had braces on my teeth and I just looked I was just real young I cant dont know how else to describe it MR SCAROLA Apart from submitting to sexual molestation by Jeffrey Epstein were you providing any other services to Jeffrey Epstein Did you clean his house did you press his clothing anything at all like that THE WITNESS No MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Are you aware of any of the other minors who were being paid by Jeffrey Epstein FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA performing any services for him other than submitting to his sexual molestations MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Had you had any experience in giving massages before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to submit to the procedures that you have described that began with massages and led to molestations MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No MR SCAROLA Had you ever engaged in any sale of sexual-related services before Jeffrey Epstein began paying you to submit to sexual molestation MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS No BY MR SCAROLA Had you ever had access to the kinds of money that Jeffrey Epstein began to pay you at any time before Jeffrey Epstein began to pay you A No MR SCAROLA May I have just a moment please MR EDWARDS Could we just take a quick break FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA BY MR SCAROLA Tell us about that if you would please What happened A It was he after I was done massaging him the whoever walked out of the room and he started like feeling on me like have me walk up so I was like in his arm area And he was just like jacking off in his hand and he asked me to give him oral sex So when I started to try he then stopped me and told me that you know I was hurting him or whatever time A A And is that Yeah that you Yes As you look the only time that happened the one can recall back on all of the things that we unfortunately have been required to ask you about during the course of this deposition how do you feel about it MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form THE WITNESS It makes me just feel feel so ashamed of I feel ashamed I feel I just really just shame I cant even I cant even really put all my emotions into words right now how I feel you know MR SCAROLA All right thank you I dont FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA MR SCAROLA Yeah well go off the record for just a moment VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately p.m we are off the record Whereupon a recess was had in the deposition VIDEOGRAPHER The time is approximately p.m and were back on the record BY MR SCAROLA Ms Wild you told us that when you first began going to Jeffrey Epsteins Palm Beach mansion that you were still in braces at that time is that correct A Yes sorry MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form Im BY MR SCAROLA You also told us that you have no recollection of Jeffrey Epstein ever performing oral sex on you A Yes correct Did there ever come a point in time when Jeffrey Epstein had you perform oral sex on him and complained about your braces interfering with that experience for him A Yes MR GOLDBERGER Object to the form FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA have any further quest ions THE WITNESS Thank you REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR GOLDBERGER Your mother had drug problems before you had any kind of involvement with Mr Epstein correct A Yeah MR GOLDBERGER Okay thats all I have VIDEOGRAPHER This concludes the deposition of Courtney Wild The time is approximately p.m We are off the record Whereupon the witness did not waive reading and signing of the deposition and the deposition was concluded at p.m FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA CERTIFICATE OF OATH STATE OF FLORIDA COUNTY OF LEON I JEFFREY BABCOCK the undersigned authority certify that COURTNEY WILD personally appeared before me and was duly sworn WITNESS my hand and official seal this 13th day of October JEFFREY BABCOCK PPR Notary Public State of Florida My Commission No Expires FOR THE RECORD REPORTING TALLAHASSEE FLORIDA ERRATA ARE ALLOW ALLOWED ALMOST ALONE Ac._ ALREADY ABBREVIATED ABILITY ABLE ABSTAINED ABUSE ABUSED ABUSING ACCESS ACCURATE ACID ACT ACTING ACTION ACTIVITIES ACTIVITY ACTUALLY ADDICT ADDICTED ADDICTS ADDITION ADDITIONAL ADDRESS ADJUDICATED ADJUDICATES ADJUDICATION ADLER ADMITTING ADULT ADULTHOOD ADVANTAGE ADVICE ADVISE ADVISED ADVISING AFTER AFTERWARDS AGAIN AGAINST AGE AGENT AGENTS AGGRAVATE AGGRAVATED 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massages was approac ed at a party by a female she believed was named She described the female as havin hair and taller The female was later identified as lilt OUnu told and friend lliliililil!lilil that they could make money by providing massages to EPSTEIN that she could provide the massages with her on or off who was fifteen years old believed that she was close to turning sixteen when she first met EPSTEIN However during first contact with EPSTEIN she told him that she had just turned eighteen and traveled to EPSTE!Ns residence in alm was pregnant at the time Once at the residence took petairs EPSTEIN entered the room or.ly a robe Once EPSTEIN had removed the robe both and provided EPSTEIN with a mas sage Both had removed their clothing and rema.ined only in underwear E?STEIN asked to leave Once a:one with EPSTEIN began to masturbate as uncomfortable After EPSTEIN climaxed the massage was over believed that had mentioned EPSTEIN might masturbate during the massage but she was still very surprised when he masturbated EPSTE:N paid EPSTEIN did net touch during that massage departed EPSTEINS residence with two men that worked for EPSTE!N They drove ll!lilUltto a Shell Gas Station located near Okeec11obee Boulevard and the Florida Turnpike Prior to departing the residence 225-provided her telephone number to one of E?STEINs assistants Case Document Entered on FLSD Docket Page of Rev CominWltioo ofFD-302 of Or Pagt girls she could bring When EPSTEIN telephoned he usually asked for __ to come over Acco;rding to EPSTEIN house telephone number began with the digits She would call sometimes and leave a message IDstated that when they telephoned her they would inform her of when they would be coming back to town and if she might have anyone new not believe that EPSTEIN ever really liked her IIMIHIIB traveled to r.he EPSTEIN residence during and over twenty five times 9,believed that she provided EPSTEIN with approximately massages EPSTEIN initially started out touching I breasts but gradually the massages became more sexual EPSTEIN would inst.ruct Wlilt on how and what to do curing the massages He would request to rub his chest and nipples stated that on approximately two occasions EPSTEIN asked that her underwear and provide the massage nude complied that EPSTEIN would make her feel that she had the option to do what she wanted During one massage stated that she had been EPSTEIN a massage for approximately minutes when instead of EPSTEIN turning over to masturbate EPSTEIN brought another female into t:he massage area __ Bl described the female as a beautiful blonde girl a Cameron Diaz type years of age bright blue eyes and speaking with an accent EPSTEIN had straddle tbe female on the massage table EPSTEIN wanted _.It to touch the females breast A.ccording to EPSTEIN pleasured the female whilelil!l!lilJ was sc:raddled on top of the female Jtstated she could hear wl:at she believed to be a vibrator said for EPSTE:N it was all about pleasuring the female After the female climaxed EPSTEIN patted the shoulder and sJ1e removed herself from the cable The female got up from the taole and w1::nt into the spa sauna EPSTEIN ccmmented to t.hat in a few minutes the female would ealize what had just happened to her receivec __.advised the interviewing agents that EPSTEIN had used a back massager on her vagina EPSTEIN a.siced her first if he could use the massager on her 1-stated that she had held her breath when EPSTEIN used the back massager on her i,9stated that at no time during any of the massages had EPSTEIN caused her tc climax During another massage lilt believed by chis time she was seventeen EPSTEIN pla,ced his hand on vagina touching Case Document Entered on FLSD Docket Page of Cor.tint.!itim ofFD-302 of lng __ clitoris I iltlwas uncomfortable and told him to stop EPSTEIN comolied stated that the incident freaked her out w_,stated that EPSTEIN was upset because she was upset never return t.o the residence that she did not deal with EPSTBIN anymo after that incident EPSTEIN gave both each a book entitled Massage for Dummies They received the books on the same visit EPSTEIN also commented how strong 1s hands were when it came to her providing his massages On another occasion mentioned to EPSTEIN that she was looking at a car a Toyota Corolla EPSTEIN providedll!l!lwith lstatad that EPSTEIN gave her the money after the incident with the other female According EPSTEIN would ask her to bring him other girls who started danc ng at strip clubs whe she was brought girls frorr the club as well as from other sources WILD stated she brought girls from fifteen years of age to twenty five years of age stated that EPSTEIN would get frustrated with her if she did not have new females for him On one instarcce EPSTE:N hung up on her because she could not provide him with anyone 1ew 267-iililt stated that EPSTEIIv preference was short little white girls stated that EPSTEIN was upset when one of the other brought a black girl stated that EPSTEIN did not want black girls or girls with tatoos that one of the girls she stayed with on occasion cil!I also started providing EPSTEIN with massages A telephone number for was lil!l!l said that her family resides Florida possibly l!l!falso stayed during this same time period However never went to EPSlEI.N hous or provided him with massages has a Yacht Club add:-ess P.nother girl that had taken EPSTEIN I residence was Vii a Last Name Unkno Il According to EPSlEIN liked L!W a lot said that she was never a favorite of EPS?EIN El?STEIN offered to bring was a couple years younger than lilil elieved that sne was eit:her when she first went tc EPSTEINs residence _.said thatmiimiila1 went ti.mes but that she did not want any part of it after that lieves she could identify Lf she saw her photograpn Ill also stated that at Case Document Entered on FLSD Docket Page of Continuation offD-302 of On lag one time attended HIGH SCHOOL also believed that they had met through a group of friends while a dropout prevention school 267i"fjlmentioned another girl by the name of EPSTEIN distinguished the two by referring to as worked at an ice cream stated that she did not like and that was a storyteller and a bad liar stated that BILOF never really wanted to go to EPSTEINS residence but she went anyway said that she had not tuken a good look at EPSTEIN penis _,explained that it seemed like he would always try and hide his penis stated that EPSTEIN never asked her for sex started dancing when she was sixteen at The owner let her dance t,has also worked at located Boynton Beach Florida used illegal drugs during the years she provided EPSTEIN with massages that EPSTE,IN tried to provide her with advice regarding controlled substances i/iiltstated that she met with EPSTE!Ns attorneys an 225a._a-unidentified 243emale UF at the ALE HOOSE RESTAURANT tv811,met with them after she who confirmed that t.hey were rea:ly workinq for EPSTEIN sta:ed that also balked of her twin boys-and 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